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Partisan assistant referees[edit]

"each side will still supply their own partisan assistant referees". Isn't that implying that the assistant referees are expected to be biased, which doesn't sound like the case, even in amateur matches. DJ Clayworth 22:28, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Debating with soccer/football referee[edit]

I have removed the section added by Descent which stated: "In most sports it is often wholly unacceptable to push or strike a referee and typically results in immediate explusion, fines, and future suspensions. Even verbally attacking a referee can result in immediate punishment, as in soccer where only team captains may debate or question a call". This was because: a) It didn't really fit in to where it was; and b) The information on soccer/football referees was incorrect: There is no prohibition on any player asking the referee a legitimate question (even though the referee is not bound to answer one), however no player (including the captain) may dissent a decision by the referee (Law 12). The captains are afforded no extra rights or privileges under the Laws; in fact the word "captain" isn't used in the Laws! Cheers, --Daveb 03:47, 22 July 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pro Wrestling?[edit]

Playing along with the notion that pro wrestling "referees" do anything bu play along with the written script is extremely un-encyclopedic. They're not real refs, they're actors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roadshell (talkcontribs) 04:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Octopush internal redirect - why?[edit]

I've removed the internal redirect created for octopush, pointing it to underwater hockey. The last rationale given for that addition was that the sport is known by different names in different parts of the world. However, we don't do that for football/association football/soccer, nor do we do it for other sports with different regional names. What is a compelling reason to do it for octopush? I don't see one. —C.Fred (talk) 17:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've requested input from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports since there's been no direct comments here. —C.Fred (talk) 02:28, 12 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Two listings for this game would seem unreasonable to me. Listing under 'u' for underwater seems reasonable because the underwater play is more important than the hockey. For the same reason there are some substantial links among the underwater hockey, football, and rugby articles but none to the ice hockey or field hockey. Other underwaters should also be listed under 'u'.
Does the order match some wikipedia sports standard? For example, Australian rules football under 'a' but Canadian and American and Association under 'f'. --P64 (talk) 13:46, 18 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm fed up with this see-saw hitting my watch list. The over-riding consideration has to be "Is it Useful?" That comes before any pedanticism or personal opinions on how things should look. The referee article is unusual because it combines so many different sports into one long article. Usefulness is a matter of helping people find their way about and I can see no harm in having internal redirects. Regards Motmit (talk) 22:58, 18 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]


When did the term "originate" in football? I doubt it because baseball used something like the two-umpire one-referee system around 1860. Cricket used two umpires, one appointed by each team, perhaps in the 18th century. This is not something I will research and write into the article now but I do doubt the claim for a football origin.

I flagged the first sentence "citation needed" (the fact template, one of few that I know) but that isn't the only need or the obvious location. The paragraph needs a temporal reference or three, like what century is this? --P64 (talk) 00:12, 21 April 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merge from Athletics Official[edit]

Seems straightforward to me that they should be merged, but what do I know? There should also be a redirect from athletics official. Walrus heart (talk) 19:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Several other sports have dedicated pages for officials, before merging perhaps you could post in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Athletics to see if they want to and can expand the article. LunarLander // talk // 01:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Referees in science journals[edit]

Shouldn't this kind of referee be mentioned in the article, or redirected to another? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:03, 17 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That'd be covered at Referee (disambiguation). —C.Fred (talk) 02:55, 18 April 2010 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Hi, I have tagged this article as it has no references at all. If anyone could help provide them please? Thanks --JetBlast (talk) 00:28, 27 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Many of the sections will not need references, as the supporting cites will be in the related articles, e.g. Referee (association football) or Umpire (baseball). —C.Fred (talk) 01:37, 27 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of well-known/famous/... refs?[edit]

e. g. [[1]] -- (talk) 19:32, 3 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

need a real writeup of golf umpires[edit]

They're called umpires, not (as the article has it) referees. And their duties are extensive. See this article from 2011. (talk) 02:52, 3 March 2021 (UTC)captcrisisReply[reply]

I intend to split out Umpire from the article. Too much trying to jam the Umpire square peg into this article. According to that article they are simply golf officials. Time to take out golf all together. JorgeLaArdilla (talk) 12:56, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]